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Being a small church is not a problem, virtue, or excuse, it could simply be a part of God’s plan. Listen as Karl Vaters and Jordan Taylor talk through what this plan may look like and how God is calling churches to innovate, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic.

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Jordan Taylor, M.Div., has been a pastor at Calvary Wallingford since 2011. He recently transitioned to Executive Pastor at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa. Previously Jordan was an assistant pastor at Calvary Fellowship in Mountlake Terrace and the director of Calvary Chapel Bible College Seattle. Jordan and his wife Michelle have three girls, and his heart is for equipping and training Christians.

Karl is pastor of Cornerstone Christian Fellowship in Fountain Valley, California. He blogs about the value and needs of small churches and is the founder of NewSmallChurch.com, a web site that encourages, connects, and equips innovative small church pastors. He is also the author of “The Grasshopper Myth.”

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